luv2bowhunt
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That doesn't help you on the way up to set the stand. :beer:

billy, I've seen a ton of good reviews. Not sure where you got that one from. I know everything is on backorder, their website says you can expect an 8-10 week wait. Add in how popular they're getting with endorsements from Eberhart and the Hunting Public, you can imagine how backordered they're getting. I don't think the AERO saddle will even compare to the Mantis system. Too bad this site isn't filled with bowhunters who hunt and use equipment so you could get more input. The other 4 guys on here probably aren't going to use a saddle. Where's Bob Peck's gear reviews when you need him? I miss ArcheryWorld or BowCountry or BowCountry 2.0. What was the one where you could make the screen black and the letters white?

Ok, that makes sense. Usually around here by early Nov, you can find some kind of an opening to setup on, even in the thicker areas. The problem I normally have in the clearcuts I hunt is finding a decent tree that will work, where I need it to be. Most of the time a decent tree is 50 yds from where you want it to be. I'm looking hard at the Tethrd Mantis. Might buy one this Summer.

The Hawk Helium sticks are not heavy. Three sticks together weigh around 8 lbs. That is about the same as the Lone Wolf or the XOP sticks. I really like them for their fast setup and light weight, but mostly because it has a foot rest on each side that folds up. I don't have to stand at the bottom of the tree and figure out how to start my ladder sticks so the step will end up on the correct side at the top by the treestand. That's like one of those stupid math problems we had to do in school. "If Alex gets on a train in Syracuse and heads south toward Atlanta at 35 mph, and at the same time Mike gets on a train in Atlanta and heads north at 12 mph, at what time will everyone else want to get off and get away from each one of the McCombies?" Everyone knows it's a trick question, no one would get on a train with either one. Geesh.