DParker
Senior Member

Yep.

https://www.sigsauer.com/press-releases/sig-sauer-issues-voluntary-upgrade-p320-pistol/

Took the LC9s out this morning for a brief visit to the range...brief because the sky opened up about 20 minutes after I got the targets set up, and it's an outdoor range. When I got there all of the 7 yd stalls were taken, so I decided to have some faith and set up at 15 yds. My phone's camera lens makes that look farther away than it is. After doing some reading I opted to not try any of the 124 gr Golden Saber +P rounds that I carry in my M&P. Instead, I used up the 18 rounds of 115 gr Hornady Critical Defense that I had left over from back when I was testing different PD loads for the M&P. The results weren't even remotely Hickock45-worthy, but the rounds all fed smoothly and all of the lead landed on the paper. With it about to rain any minute I shifted to let's-see-what-other-stuff-it'll-digest mode. I was out of my preferred Winchester White Box plinking ammo, but had a little each of some Remington UMC, Blazer Brass and...cheapest of the cheap...Tula steel cased, zinc plated projectile rounds (these things are truly crap). Save for the first Tula round, which jammed while feeding into the chamber (the case edges on them are abysmally wide and sharp) all rounds fed, cycled and ejected without problem, and also stayed on the paper...though some just barely. Between the gun's shorter sight radius and the fact that my vision had slowly degraded to the point that it's difficult for me to focus on the sights at all I think I'm probably going to mount a grip-activated laser on it. That and a lot more practice should allow me to tighten up those sorry-assed groups considerably. But even those aren't unacceptable if you shrink the distance to typical self-defense range. Obviously this isn't enough rounds to get used to the gun, let alone draw many conclusions about it yet. But, so far so good. The trigger was smooth with a fairly crisp break, though the take-up and reset are both a little longer than I'd prefer. The biggest problem, at least at first, was that the bottom end of the trigger is quite narrow...rather rhan flat against your finger...and almost comes to a bit of a point. As a result, the recoil from the first several shots drove that edge/point into the pad of my finger...which kinda' hurt. But I found I could prevent that by making sure my finger was up at the top of the trigger (which is relatively short anyway) and up against the bottom of the frame. That kept the end of the trigger from digging into my finger while not negatively impacting my ability to pull the trigger smoothly. And as expected, the shorter and narrower grip made it less ergonomic than the excellent grip on my M&P. But that's the inescapable price of the size reductions required in order to make a 9mm pistol light and small enough for deep concealed hot weather carry. So I definitely wouldn't call it a fun gun to shoot, but I didn't buy it to be a fun range toy, and it's not unpleasant enough to prevent me from practicing with it...so that's OK. So now I'm off to contemplate holstering options.

Everyone needs a hobby.

Wait....you're asking that? OK...that gets a +5 and a golf-clap.

I love it when a company doesn't mince words. It makes it so much easier to get useful Google results when using honest search terms. Alien Gear Holsters: Concealed carry for fat guys

Assuming no malfunctions, the only issue I'm anticipating is it being somewhat less than fun to put the +P Golden Sabers I use for carry through it, as I expect the recoil from them to feel pretty snappy due to the pistol's light weight and shorter+thinner grip. I could post another photo that would make them look even smaller by comparison...but this is still a semi-family-friendly site.

Thanks. I'd like to credit it all to lots of hard work and plenty of clean living. I'd like to...but we all know better.

I used to be able to bang a gong...even get it on...but that was back in the '70s.

The old boy can shoot, too. In the same review video he was also ringing a 4" plate from what appeared to be about 30 yds or so. He was only able to hit it once about every 6 rounds on average, but that ain't bad shooting off-hand with a compact pistol. It would probably take me a whole box of ammo to hit it once at that range.

I just picked the LC9S up on my way home from work yesterday and haven't had a chance to put any rounds through it yet, so useful answers to most of these questions will have to wait until I've made it to the ramge...hopefully this weekend. However, I did some dry firing last night and can say that while it will never be a competition gun, the trigger does appear to be significantly improved when compared with both the LCP and the hammer-fired LC9, based on the complaints about those two that I've read and watched on YouTube. The reset is longer than it should be, but it breaks earlier than the older models, which was their major deficiency. The pull weight feels like it's just shy of 5 lbs, is pretty smooth for a brand new trigger and the break is fairly crisp. I watched Hickock45 do a video review and he was easily and consistently putting rounds into 4" steel targets at 10 and 20 yds, so I'm expecting it to deliver more than acceptable accuracy for a close-range personal defense weapon once I get used to it. But we'll see. As for my M&P, I have one of the older models from before they made improvements to the trigger. Even then it was a good enough shooter for me to get a perfect score on my CHL range test. But it was a bit heavy, with slightly excessive over-travel and reset length, so I dropped in a hard seer from Apex and that addressed all 3 issues. It's been a damned fine shooter ever since.

I just weighed the M&P9 and the LC9S, both with fully loaded mags. The M&P9 weighed in at a hefty 34.5 oz, while the LC9S was a much lighter 20.25 oz. That's a reduction of just over 41%, or just under 2 oz shy of a full lb. That's going to make a big difference in carryability, I think.

I wonder if she used this one weird trick.

I was skeptical as well, but as it turns out... https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/knowledgeability

Oh, yeah...that one is always cringe-inducing. It also keeps me humble when I see guys who are in better condition than me dropping from heat exhaustion. Especially when it's being pummeled by a cruise missile barrage. Quite right.

One of the other things that I've come to enjoy about watching FiF is that, now that I've watched for quite a while I've learned just enough to be able to spot when a contestant is making...or is about to make...one of the common mistakes (like quenching in water, time management errors, etc). It adds to the immersive quality, and provides you with little "Oh no!" bits of tension...along with giving you an even greater appreciation for their skill when they manage to recover from something like that.

No, I didn't bother watching it....because the previews gave me exactly the same impression that you just described from the actual show. One of the things that I like most about Forged in Fire is that they do a pretty good job of keeping that sort of goofy crap to a tolerable minimum. And even then, some of the goofiness is actually looked forward to (ie, "Eet weell keel").

And that's all he'll be.

It's not difficult here, what with the Pecan being native to and so common in TX that it's the official state tree. They're all over the ground in the woods around here, if you can beat the squirrels, deer and hogs to them. If not, there are numerous businesses selling bulk pecans. Crack them open, make some pie and then use the husks for smoking. It's culinary one-stop shopping!

So...if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to ignite the stump and cook meat over it...did it really make a sound?

In the potato salad? That might work, given the shrimp.

I'd agree for a brisket rub. But I'm not as enamored of a pronounced pepper flavor on pork. Still, I suppose it could stand another tsp or 2.

You're right. I'm scum. As penance I shall post the recipe I used for the rub. I was pretty pleased with the sweet/mild heat balance it delivered. For each 5 lbs of meat: 1/4 cup paprika 1/4 cup dark brown sugar 3 Tbsp kosher salt 1 tsp ground black pepper 2 Tbsp garlic powder 1 Tbsp dried oregano 2 tsp chili powder

How about the end result? A 9 lb (originally) pork shoulder reduced to just under 6 lbs of finished pulled pork.

Well, after 24 hrs in the fridge the potato salad was a little better, but still not as good as I was expecting. There's a little heat from the crab boil, but other than that it's a bit bland, honestly It needs some more herbs and/or spices of some sort. Some dill would help but I'm not sure what else.

Man, it ain't easy getting a smoker up to temperature...and keeping it there...when it's 37°F with 20 MPH winds outside.

Yeah, it'd be a shame to have to kick her to the curb for having nothing to offer.