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How's that for the straight and narrow? .... LOL

We're doomed ...

Akshully ... It's not Its :re:

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Give me the straight and narrow.

Don't go all sappy on me now ...

Holy buckets, Batman!

:-) :tu:

What's a pine tree Charles?

Somebody should do a show where there are a bunch of millennial saddle hunters and one older guy who just keeps saying "Yeah, but what about ..." It would be absolutely turrible if they were younger than that, though. At least millennials know what a radio is. (I think.) Don't steal the idea, you whelps.... Or Hell will be coming to breakfast .... :wink

Akshully, you can be too exposed much higher than that, now that I re-read what I was babbling earlier. So let's go 25 feet for the sake of sticking a number in there. Think lone tall pine trees in a new cut-over or burn. I like hiding behind the tree. But a lot of places ""popping out" against the sky to take a shot just isn't gonna work ... Not even on the dumbest of my deer.

And we only have, like, 7 members ...

Trending now on Archery Talk: How Do You Relieve Yourself In A Saddle? Hell, we did that one months ago .....

'Cause you know it'll be a mess any higher if you have to go Number Two? You have to factor in the time down and back up ...

Thirty-five feet? Why stop there?

No. (Answering for a friend.) Thirty-five feet, now we're talking .... LOL...

Do you guys feel like 20 feet up is a little excessive? Asking for a friend.

LOL ... Let me search the memory banks ...

I do suck, that is a given. One thing that I have on my stand I purchased this year is a bar for your feet. It's amazing how being able to put your feet on that bar helps your back. I'm not here to poke fun (well, let me start again). I'm just trying to get the facts ma'am. Just the facts. I'll put a cedar tree set up against anything, but of course they have to be present in the location you want to hunt. Someone should really do a story on the cedar tree...Maybe call it something clever like 'Consider the Cedar'.

I haven't forgotten shit. :wink That's why I study your angry posts, even though you think I don't ... LOL Looking forward to your gear list, and your advice.

It's not as much movement as you might think if you are taking your time about it. This year the buck had no clue I was even there until I stopped him. I said the treestand was more comfortable for an all day sit, that didn't mean the saddle was uncomfortable. I found my back was way more comfortable with the saddle on an all day sit. Hang-on stands always hurt my back eventually during a sit. Again, neither of you will be on SaddleCountry, you guys suck too much.

Next season I'll be at 7 1/2 lbs with sticks & a platform. May add in a strap-on step that weighs a couple ounces and will definitely use the knaider. That will easily get me 20 feet up. Plenty in the woods I'm hunting. You seem to forget, I've got 25 years experience carting around steps/sticks and a hang-on stand. I know what it feels like to cart that around up hills, down hills, lug it up the tree to hang it, tear it down, move to the next spot. I've done it countless times, more than most hunters ever will because of the number of stands I'd put out each year. I know from experience, it was way easier this year moving around with the saddle than dealing with a hang-on stand. I've done both, others haven't.

One of my favorite sets is where I can see a specific location over my left shoulder (right-hand shooter) and get a shot back there while seated. There are many situations I've had where I really need to watch 360 around me, and the tree cover isn't great. If I can't sit facing that backside trail, I'll set my stand on the back of the tree. I doubt I could get a shot off if I had to do anything other than turn over my shoulder and shoot. (Low sets --under 20 feet-- brushy transition areas...) (Meaning if my stand faced the trail, I would usually be picked off.)

Okay, so you are trying to watch a trail from the backside of the tree -and then move to the front for a shot once a deer appears. Seems like a lot of movement to me. Where am I wrong? Also being able to sit comfortably (all day) is key. I didn't get picked off because of the tree or location. I got picked off reaching for my bow that was behind me.

There are several benefits "advertised" but whether they really work is a different question. Light weight: Show me the money for a practical system that's not a torture test. I'm drawing the line at a generous 12 pounds semi-arbitrarily, and will say I don't think even 10 pounds makes you a mobile-hunting ninja. Mobile hunting: Unless you're tramping back and forth through thick brush with a shitty pack system, I don't know why you are more stealthy with a saddle + climbing system than a hang-on kit of similar weight, packed and handled well.

It's lighter, it's easier to move around, it's actually easier to shoot all directions, and it helps you hide from the deer. You said that deer were picking you out of the trees you were in when you were in a treestand. Let's say you have a trail crossing you're watching, with a treestand you pretty much have to face it. With the saddle, you can stay on the back side and avoid alot of eye contact, especially from deer you're not interested in. I can hardly think of any advantages I had hunting from the treestand compared to the saddle. Maybe a little more comfy on long sits but that's about it. The saddle is better for me in almost any other category I can think of.

Go easy on Luv2. Just because he's hiding my great-great grandmother's silverware under the floorboards of his house doesn't mean he deserves EXTRA punishment ...