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  • Bob Peck's Avatar
    14 Minutes Ago
    Yes. Correct. The Nikon range finder I use compensates for angle and supposedly delivers the "true" distance from the target. 4 sections of ladder rack @ 5' per section puts me approximately 20'+ up. Nope. I didn't range with optics from the base of the tree. I paced it off at very moderate steps old school style. I tried to range with the Nikon but the terrain had a contour where I couldn't get an accurate reading. Possibly. It has occurred to me that the technology in my hand may be failing or inaccurate. Then again this honestly might just flat out might be a combination of the usual suspects like bad shot, deflection and distance miscalculation. Went back again this morning for another go and then the wind picked up and it started raining hard. Looked overhead for turkey vultures but nada.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    38 Minutes Ago
    There are several different kinds of milo, as far as I know. The sorghum/milo here is different from what I've seen people call milo elsewhere. I can't say whether those people knew what they were talking about or not, though. What I call milo or sorghum: Birds like it, though. I'm a little surprised it doesn't seem to be a bigger draw for doves here. Maybe they're in corn until it (one or the other) comes down. If I see corn and sorghum in the same area, though, no (few) doves in the sorghum. At least when I'm paying attention. This article conflicts with my largely unimpressed attitude toward sorghum/milo: https://www.qdma.com/food-plot-species-profile-grain-sorghum/
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    57 Minutes Ago
    For example, I went into a hardware store here and bought a lid that goes on a 5-gal bucket. That lid has two parts. The first part is inserted on the outside edge of normal 5-gal bucket. The second is a top that screws into the first part. So now I have food storage that completely seals and is easily removed. Brilliant idea. We keep rice and other items bulk items in these in the basement. Bucket was a pickle bucket and given to me free. The lid was a small amount.
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  • DParker's Avatar
    57 Minutes Ago
    Exactly. Hence my assumption that either we're misinterpreting something, or Bob fat-fingered one of the numbers....or he's 9 feet tall, which is throwing off his ground distance pacing. I mean, I've heard legends.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    They could come up with a koozy for normal 5-gal buckets and actually turn it into an insulated bait bucket. People love accessories that turn ordinary items into something very functional.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    The only way a product like that gets the OK is that people that design their crap don't actually use it. Should this go in the "Pet Peeve" thread? I mean, c'mon man.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    I don't know if it's the standard lid or an option, but somebody at YETI did think to put a hole in it for an aerator hose, though why you want a hose in the lid when the lid has to come off to get bait is beyond me. It seems like a good place to run a hose but let's just say I made an aerated bait tank a few years ago and put the hose through the lid, and Gen2 has the hose running in through the side. Also, why there's no white lid with the aerator hose opening is beyond me. It looks like the only option is clear, which does no good if you're trying to keep your bait cool, dark and calm. YETI, if you're reading this and need more consumer feedback, cash me ousside in PMs, how bow da?
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    bluecat replied to a thread Why I hate sorghum. in Podunk Corner
    Yes, milo is actually the more common term. I don't know if deer use milo or not. I've never been successful hunting over it. It's a little surprising. It's fairly good to eat right off the plant. I would think the deer would love it.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    We have some leaves here in the woods that show red splotches when they turn yellow. Very annoying. I want to say maple, maybe gum. I basically don't pay attention to them anymore, LOL. Do deer use the sorghum out there? Around here, I think it's pretty worthless for deer. Not even convinced deer will use it to bed. Also, bonus question: Is sorghum ever referrred to as milo in your area? I'll hang up and take my answer off the air.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    Maybe when they said it was heavy duty, they meant heavy doodie.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    Now by load out, does that mean you can do a number two in it? Maybe a lid/seat accessory that would accomodate?
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    When the plant matures, it has blotchy red marks on the leaves. Looks exactly like blood. Would not want to trail a deer through that.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    This video goes to show several things: 1. When you buy a new boat, you need a new bucket. 2. This guy is very lucky, or Yeti surveyed Yamaha Boats about their bucket compartments. 3. The impressive qualities of a $40 plastic bucket cannot be hyped or overstated. 4. Anyone can do a review on Youtube, of anything. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mp51oRTKL_Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    Exactly, normally it's not a large enough difference to matter unless you are in the nose-bleed section. Popcorn, peanuts, Frosty Malt, Dr. Pepper here...
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    My head hurts. Here's how I cope: If you play with the numbers, the only way you get more than a "negligible" difference between distance ranged from elevation vs. horizontal distance at most bowhunting ranges (Eastern, anyway) is if something is very out of whack, like height or measuring error.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    1 Hour Ago
    Not that it matters, but as long as we're on an archery topic: This is the second story I've heard about this Rage head. This one's 2.3 inches for the blades and the story I'm referring to mentioned 2 inches. Not sure if that's casual usage or really a smaller model. http://www.ragebroadheads.com/x-treme-100-grain/ Anyhoo, that story also involved a shot with far less than ideal penetration. I don't recall bone being involved, or any other circumstances, so take that for what it's worth. Maybe people are having great luck with it on deer and big game; I don't know. It doesn't exactly strike me as a hot knife through butter, though.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    2 Hours Ago
    x(2) + y(2) = hypotenus (2) 22 (2) + y (2) = 37 (2) 484 + y(2) = 1369 y(2) = 885 y = 29.74 yards (up in tree) 89.24 feet up tree Yep, DP is on to something.
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  • bluecat's Avatar
    2 Hours Ago
    Sorry Bob, I know that is something that is running through your mind constantly. When I was reading this I was wondering about the math myself as there isn't usually that big a disparity between bow to target and horizontal distance. You must have some mighty large paces.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    2 Hours Ago
    Or at least above the target, in the case of a steep slope ... But kudos for doing the calculation ... I wasn't gonna do it! ...LOL...
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    2 Hours Ago
    I'm not following several items. You held for 37 but hit lower than expected? The target confirmed you were on at 37, i.e., what your rangefinder told you? I don't know what the explanation can be for such a variance on horizontal vs. line of sight distances, except very severe angles (and I mean VERY severe to be that far off). Have you verified your rangefinder on flat ground? I've had a nock or two pop out at impact. Sounds like yours partially came out and then all the running and bouncing tipped 'er out. Probably right about bone and the business end of the arrow. I've had one or two leg shots or low brisket shots like that. Similar blood trails, sparse sign, one or two beds, etc. Not much you can do about it. I've never seen the evidence that you can recover a deer like that, even with a dog. I think she'll live to swing by the stand another day. Doesn't make it suck any less, though.
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  • DParker's Avatar
    2 Hours Ago
    I'm sorry to hear this one turn out that way, Bob. I'm dreading the day when the odds catch up with me and make me have this experience too. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is that I don't get nearly as many shooting opportunities as most of you guys do (I never saw a single deer last season, and I haven't seen one yet this season either, in spite of having been out 4 times so far). It sounds like you did everything you could to effect a recovery. I do have a question about your distances though. You said you ranged the target at 37 yds. I took that to mean 37 yds directly from your shooting position in your tree stand to the target on the ground. Is that correct? And then you ranged the distance from the base of the tree to the target at 22 yds. A little back-of-the-napkin (OK, OK, I cheated and used a calculator) trig puts your stand about 29 yds, 2.24 ft...or a hair over 89 feet...up in the tree. So either I'm misinterpreting something in your description, or you're trying to get a nosebleed...or you're taking some really long steps when pacing the distance on the ground. My money says I'm reading something wrong. Do I win?
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    BTW, from the picture, it looks like I have two of the more legal version of that tote at Camp Swampy.
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    Back in the day it was Acapulco Gold and Panama Red ... If this keeps up, Amazon Prime could become a thing.
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  • Bob Peck's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    What I thought was a 25 yard shot turned out to be 37 when I ranged it afterward and the Nikon range finder factoring in elevation. Funny thing is when I paced off the distance from the bottom of the tree to the impact it was 22 yards. It looked like a rock solid shoulder hit with a Rage 2-blade Extreme launching from a Bowtech Guardian at 62lbs draw weight. The doe bounded off with the arrow and lighted nock bouncing up and down in the early morning light. I could have sworn I heard the final crash 50+ yards into the thick stuff. At a bare minimum I did watch the doe's body crashing through the woods and ping ponging off of trees. I waited 1.5 hours just in case there was another shot opportunity. Nothing. I packed up and got down all cocky that I did what I practiced all year for. I took a knee as is my custom and thanked God for a great hunt and asked for a quick recovery. I was already dreaming of donating my first deer of the season (another custom). The impact showed a line of fur in the direction the doe took off. It looked to me like some of the fur had been "cut" possibly by the huge cutting diameter of the broadhead <a href="https://imgur.com/8KcxNX6"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/8KcxNX6.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> One tuft of fur had a drop or two of blood <a href="https://imgur.com/0JTxKLB"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/0JTxKLB.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> Finding the blood trail entering into the thick stuff was time consuming and this is all I found near where the doe entered the woods. The spatter clearly from a moving deer. <a href="https://imgur.com/f7vIb9R"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/f7vIb9R.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> Then nothing. Absolutely nothing. 1.5 hours later I resorted to a grid search and found what was left of my arrow about 20 yards in from the single drop. No nock. No broadhead. <a href="https://imgur.com/5BzF4wl"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/5BzF4wl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> Never in 45 years of bowhunting have I seen such a thing with regard to the arrow shaft. The broadhead had to be in bone to cause it to rip out of the shaft and sever the ferrule. You can see what's left of the ferrule inside the shaft. I have no idea why the nock was ripped out of the carbon/aluminum on the other end. <a href="https://imgur.com/UsgWb8i"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/UsgWb8i.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> <a href="https://imgur.com/FXpCgHT"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/FXpCgHT.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> Lots of frustrating searching for the trail eventually revealed this large spot where the doe must have paused for some time (120 yards) <a href="https://imgur.com/wYTvoGX"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/wYTvoGX.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> 10 yards from this large spot was a few drops where the trail went 100% cold <a href="https://imgur.com/dOAP8PJ"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/dOAP8PJ.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a> 3.5 hours later and grid search upon grid search within 20 yards then expanded to 50 revealed nothing. I took up the search again that evening with no recovery. Of course we bowhunters replay everything over and over but I went a step further. I wanted to know not just speculate. I have never done this before but I brought a block target into the woods and placed it on the impact location, climbed in the tree and took aim again assuming a 20-yard shot. (I use a red dot heads up display vs. pins). Again, it ranged at 37 yards but paced off from the bottom of the tree at 22. When I adjusted the shot for 37 vs 20 I was dead on. Crap! I was right but oh so wrong. Based on the results of these test shots and measuring down on a full size 3D target in the backyard I don't believe I hit shoulder where I was aiming. I believe I hit just below the shoulder and in the top part of the leg but not into the chest cavity. Not a fatal hit. A chip shot turned into a bad shot and what had to be a very painful wounding. :bang: It got dark and I decided to look for the lighted nock which was surely in the vicinity where I found the arrow shaft. Nope. Nothing. Sometimes too much information is not a good thing. No need for sympathy. Honest. It's happened to all of us at one time or another. Wounding absolutely sucks and definitely not what we seek but we all know it comes with the territory. What is done is done and I cannot unring the bell. You could say I should have ranged every possible shot from the tree and know my distances BEFORE I launch an arrow and you'd be right. I'm ashamed to admit I've been hunting from this particular tree for 11 years and have shot more from this honey hole that I can count. I had this or so I thought. The moral of the story is no matter the years of experience remembering to focus on the mental aspect of our sport is just as important as the mechanical and form aspects. Had I not been cocky and allowed overly confident musings running through my head *during* the shot the end result may have been different but then again ...
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  • DParker's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    A challenger in the high-value plastic container market appears: Florida Couple Receives Marijuana In Amazon Order
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    LOL... DP gets it. :-) :applause:
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  • Swamp Fox's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    Right. The point I am trying to make is that a brand (or a trade name) is more than what it sells or is in hand. Think Cadillac. Walmart. Martha Stewart. Is Lincoln in the car business? Sure, but not really. If they were in the car business, they'd say more about their cars in their ads. They want to be in the suave luxury business. Yeti knows its appeal, and also that it can't stay "a cooler company." They've been successful because they understand it's not what they sell but what (why) people buy that's important. They show signs of kicking that into even higher gear with new management and under competitive pressure. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o474oCwnjlU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  • DParker's Avatar
    3 Hours Ago
    Yeti sells coolers?
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